Archive for April 2010
Continuation of “Internship monthly salary” related discussion on agile bangladesh group
[This is the continuation of the on going thread at agile bangladesh group]
Hi sudipta,
i think you are doing great!, you have raised your concerns and showed up your eagerness to talk about this with all of us.
frankly speaking i think this group would be better utilized when more concerning, frustrating and real problem oriented mails are poped up.
i’m damn sure i ain’t only enjoyed reading out this thread as well as i’ve enjoyed seeing people’s different room of thoughts about internship.
so far i’m more sure till now, we all wanna see bangladesh as the BEST IT software development base.
wanna see we have pool of passionate talents those who never care about any challenge.
who can put sharp edge of bleeding sword to any technological challenge. can slice challenge into pieces and solve with GUT and passion!
@sudipta, you guys are doing great!, all you need just a little adjustment to understand what is internship is all about and what you can expect and how you can build.
software is thought product, software developers are used to be very emotional and creative. most of them are right brainers, they love to illuminate software with their skill craftsmanship.
did you see any artist ? (who draw other’s portrait)
so far i understand no education can build artist, artist are born with right brain dominated. later they figure out where they are the best on.
and they pursue their own dream rather not pursuing their parents dream. (becoming doctor, pilot, engineer etc..)
let me ask you another question, why did you join IT ? Is it your own will or you parents will ?
i saw people who has picked up IT because their parents or other influences told him this is good career to earn money!.
frankly speaking this is modern and more trendy profession where you can have smart salary as well.
BUT, to get smart salary you need to be SMART! i guess damn SMART!
the way you expressed your mail, it feels to me, you are having ZERO (0) confidence on your OWN!.
seems like you just stumbled upon something you were never ready for.
let me ask you! if you were computer science student what else you have done rather addafying with friends, gossiping with friends, studying for better grade ? did you write any program which blows the whole SYSTEM ? did you write any code which bought other’s attention to your coding skill?
did you beaten your poorly knowledge teacher by your PASSION and overwhelming study over wikipedia ?
did you read any software industry related magazines or books EVER ?
i don’t get it, how come you guys passed 4/5 years without even thinking about industry ? where you have to settle in.
i understand our teachers should have played as mentoring role,
it feels to me, teacher are providing their service because they ain’t get any other options left (not all teacher).
just cut the crap! if we consider you to take as an intern in our company. we would have asked for the following key values from you -
- Can you hold up your negative thought and keep focusing on learning ?
- Are you focused on software development ?
- Do you study yourself (from wiki, google) ? or do you need spoon feeding?
- Can you move alone when you are shown to a path ? (self study, try to understand or ask too many questions to understand)
- Did you ever joined in any other bangladeshi software groups beside Agilebd ? (like jpgroup for java, phpexperts for php)
- Do you have the craziness ? do you feel it! do you feel you can ignite yourself ?
i have another question for you -
- Can you tell me where do you wanna see yourself in next 5 years ? Is it europe or bangladesh?
i know 5 years is far away, but not so far than 10 years or rest of your remaining life times.
if you wanna get well paid, you gotta prove it. you gotta prove why company won’t pay you more.
you have to show up your GUT! your passion. otherwise you have to be happy with what you are getting (by the bless of BASIS minimum 5K suggestion). if you are having such attitude (not self learner, not passionate, no patience to give try out) and come to us for internship. we would never let such guy in our company (sounds rude! but you know it’s very very very TRUE!).
you gotta PROVE yourself then you will create your need, otherwise you are not welcomed ![]()
so my last few suggestions for your own improvement -
- You ask yourself, “Am i in love with Software programming?”
- You start reading book from the scratch.
- You build personal projects to learn more inside.
- When you have completed 1/2 books and practiced lotta times. you try to join in any company as trainee, intern or junior developer
- You become the most proactive, never care what company is paying you now!
- Perhaps you might face hard time to survive, you NEVER GIVE UP! you can take money from you friends and family but don’t invest yourself in tuition or other none IT related profession.
- Keep single company focus
- Learn as much work as possible
- Prove yourself “Why won’t company kiss you
“ - Create your own image with the colleagues and company.
I guess you guys can understand this is not a short process, you might need at least 2/3 years to insert into a better level.
so you better get ready and sail your boat.
btw, we (hasin hayder (leevio), emran (right brain solution and me (tasawr interactive) have started workshop in university campus. (right now we are at brac university, we have already taking 7/8 classes)
where we are training students to learn web development with whole domain coverage. (ie we also let them get in touch with html, css, javascript with jquery, database, php, php with codeigniter)
we are planning to improve our curriculum frequently and bring this workshop from BRAC university to any other universities through out the whole nation.
frankly speaking we are doing it for free! actually we are investing our time. since i have office on saturday, my company (tasawr interactive) allowed me 3 days weekend, where i’m utilizing my 3rd day (on saturday) to take class here. thus my company is also investing. all we want better IT growth in bangladesh.
i think other bangladeshi IT professionals should be coming forward to take such initiative to improve our university students, encourage them motivate them and add more fuel on them so they can ignite
anyway! thanks guys for reading out this pretty long mail
khekk!




